Our board member Chris Shelton interviews another one of our board members, Robert Örell, on his “Sensibly Speaking” podcast. They discuss Robert’s organization, Exit Sweden – Fryshuset, as well as discuss his expertise and experience in the world of extremist groups. They also tackle the difficult question of just why people join abusive groups, and discuss why violence – even against violent groups – is never the answer.

Chris’ interviews are always worth a listen, and this one is no exception!